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You expose the honour of the house cern themselves in parliament, and to censure, if you give up your that is the reason they look not tight upon such a flight answer. I into those cases. But I believe, if would therefore address the king lord Coke had been here at this for a farther answer.

debate, he would have changed Sir Hugh Cholmondeley:] As his opinion. For continuance of far as I can guess, this question is this privilege for two hundred better left undetermined. If the years is great authority. But it is king can refuse a speaker, he may faid, . Ab initio non fuit fice' --It tefuse several. If the king has not is a voluntary act, and no pofitive liberty, &c. he cannot displace, up- law; a thing done only out of on excuse of infirmity. We had respect to the king. It is said, better begin anew, and leave it as . That a speaker has been rejected it was.

It was moved, " That by the king, and that is an evithe king might cause' nothing of dence of the king's power'.-But this matter to be entered upon this is materially on our side ; exthe lords journal.' I propose that ceptio probat regulam in non exceptis. way as most expedient.

Sir John Popham, who was rejectSir John Knight.) You have ad- ed, was fick. This person, Mr. journed that very debate to this Seymour, not disabling himself by day, and your right of chusing the any excuse, and being a person so speaker is your proper debate, and near the king as a counsellor, it is you can go upon nothing else. no breach of respect to the king to

Sir Harbottle Grimitone. ] It make another address, &c. I look has been our work four or five upon it as an undoubted privilege days to find out an expedient in of the people, and it may prove this matter, and we cannot. The fatal to give it up, when for two king has been so advised, that we hundred years never any speaker chufe any, member but one ; which was presented to the king, but is as much as to fay, • Chuse Popham, and he for the cause of whom you will but twenty.' Ex- his disability, &c. When Serjeant cept one, and except twenty. It Philips was chosen speaker, and was a faying of king James, • 'That placed in the chair, he issued out when he called a parliament, he his warrant for writs, and the great let down his prerogative to his fealobeyed them, before he was conpeople ; but when he diffolved firmed by the king. The king a parliament, he took it up again; fays, or generally by the lord not for his pleasure, but for his chancellor, Go, and chuse your power.' " If one address will not speaker ;' not

< Go to your do, I am for a second and a third house, and chase whom I nothe king

minate,' but · Chuse your spekSir John Hewley. ] I would serve er :' Shall this be taken away by my king and my country, but a fide-wind ? A facto ad jis non cannot be in a capacity to give up valet consequentia. The speaker is the cause for ever, Shall not we our servant, and is he to obey his have our tongue to speak our own master, or no ? Though the speakwords ? As for that precedent in er be the greatest commoner of lord Coke, &c. judges do not con- England, yet he is not the great

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eft community of England. To {peaker, as he has directed you, have a fervant impoled upon à is no yielding the point. man, though by the king himself, Mr. Garroway) It is the conwill not be suffered by any private ftant method of parliament, that, mafter, or merchant; and thall the upon an adjourned debate, the commons of England endure it ? question ought to be read. The reason of it will give you light. The case of Mitton, in lord It was read accordingly. Coke's fourth Reports: the king created a sheriff of a county; the Sir Edward Dering.) It seems to fheriff, by virtue of his office, me, all circumstances considered, makes his under-sheriff; but the the constant practice to the contraking created an under-theriff. ry—The mace comes down from The judges agreed that the king the lords house before the speaker, could not do it, because the high and does not go up before him. Sheriff was to answer for his depu It came not down now before him; ties, if the king cannot. Shall and I believe Mr. Seymour did the king 'put a tongue into our not think himself well settled in months, to speak for us? I would the chair without the king's almake a re-address to the king, as lowance; and what difficulty has been moved.

would the gentleman be in, were Sir John Reresby:) If you put he here? Many of those privileges The king upon a dissolution of the we now enjoy are of later date than parliament upon this point, though this we now pretend to. That Some gentlemen, say, they do the king can refuse a speaker, upon not fear it, because of the king's reason given, we see has been, and neceflity for money;' the king's the king has now given a reason, necessity is the people's necessity; why he approves not of your and if we have fo little considera- choice ; · Because he has employtion of the king's necessity, the ment for Mr. Seymour in another king may have as little of ours; place. In some books, we find therefore I move that you will no we have asked the lords consent. minate a second or third per- Onslow, when speaker here, was - fon, c.

called by writ to the lords house to Sir Thomas Exton.) I shall not affift there, and he was sent down enter into the king's prerogative hither again upon request of the in this matter. That has been suf

I move that a third ficiently spoken to, and I can add man may be chosen. nothing. I am not of opinion, Mr. Bennet.] It is your right to that to wave it now is to give it chuse your speaker, and to turn up for ever. The city is on fire, him out too. When you re-adand one comes, and blows up my dress the king, I would consider house, which is my right, but up- who put this bone amongst us ; on that extremity I wave it. No and put that into the address. I am man will say that this is our right; not afraid of diffolving. He that and as the king has given up his did this will keep it inch by inch, right by our free choice of a





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presented it already? He that made Mr. Williams.] Your debates this question cannot want another ought to be applied to your to play with, and then you will be question. To debate, that it is sent home maimed in your prithe right of the house to chuse, vileges, wounded in your body. and the king to refuse a speaker, I This is like an Italian revenge, am sorry to hear that know, when damning the soul first, and then your representation to the king killing the body. has plainly afferted the thing. sentation you have deliveredis When that appears to be your ge- very moderately penned ; and will neral opinion, I take it to be a you receive this manner of answervery strange thing now to debate ing? When you have presented an the contrary. But since you are humble petition, what sort of an gone out of the way, pray come swer do


receive? Do you not, in again and assert your right. Pre- by laying this aside, set up a worse rogative does and must consist, and precedent than you have had an the essence of it, as much in custom answer ? I have that in my

mind as any of our privileges. Now which I cannot so well express, the business of the five days is to but gentlemen may easily imagine. make a precedent in your house By good counsel, the king may against yourselves as it were. Dr. heal all this, but it will never be Exton, who is in another orb of in the power of the house of the law, would let your right sleep commons to retrieve it, if you now, to resume * it another time. give up your right. Now popery and foreign fears are upon us ! I have ever observed, The second humble representathat prerogative once gained was tion to his majesty :... never got back again, and our privileges loft are never restored. • Moft gracious sovereign, What will become of you when a popish successor comes, when in • Whereas by the gracious anking Charles II's time, the best of swer your majesty was pleased to princes, you gave up this privi- give to our first message in counlege? When you have the op- cil, whereby your majesty was pression of a tyrant upon you, and pleased to declare a resolution all ill counsels upon you, what not to infringe our juft rights will become of you ? Now you and privileges, we, your ma, have none to ftruggle with, but jesty's most dutiful and loyal ill counsellors and a good prince. commons, were encouraged to: I will lay this as heavy upon maké an humble reprefentation counsellors, as any man can lay it to your majesty upon the choice

* Sir Thomas Exton was member for the university of Cambridge, and L.L.N. Vol. VI.



they all pretend to, and what is possible for you to imagine. They very hard, will give it to nobody. build certain fabrics of gauze on For my part I could not forbear their heads, about a yard high, advising them (for the public good) consisting of three or four ftories to give the title of Excellency to fortified with numberless yards of every body, which would include heavy ribbon. The foundation of the receiving it from every body; this structure is a thing they call a but the very mention of such a Bourlé, which is exactly of the dishonourable peace, was received fame shape and kind, but abou: with as much indiguation, as Mrs.four times as big as those rolls our Blackaire did the motion of a re prudent milk maids make use of ference.. And indeed, I began to to fix their pails upon. This mathink myself ill-natured, to offer chine they cover with their own to take from them, in a town hair, . which they mix with a great where there are so few diversions, deal of falle, it being a particular fo entertaining an amusement. I beauty to have their heads too large know that my peaceable disposi- to go into a moderate tub. · Their tion already gives me a very ill hair is prodigiously powdered to figure, and that 'tis publicly whila conceal the mixture, and let out pered as a piece of impertinent . with three or four rows of bodkins, pride in me, that I have hitherto (wonderfully large, that stick out been faucily civil to every body, iwo or three inches from their hair) as if I thought no body good made of diamonds, pearls, red, enough to quarrel with. I should green, and yellow ftones, that it be obliged to change my behaviour, certainly requires as much art and if I did not intend to pursue my experience to carry the load upjourney in a few days." Letter vi. right, as to dance upon May-day

Her next stop was atVienna; their with the garland. Their whale manner of visiting there, and their bone petticoats outdo ours by fevedress at that time, which we sup- ral yards circumference, and cover pose to be authentic, may be mat- fome acres of ground. You may ter of curiofity.

easily suppose how this extraordi. “ Though I have so lately trou- dary dress fets off and improves bled you, my dear lifter, with a the natural ugliness, with which long letter, yet I will keep my God Almighty has been pleased to promise in giving you an account endow them, generally speaking, of my first going to court. In Even the lovely empress herself order to that ceremony, I was is obliged to comply, in fome desqueezed up in a gown, and adorn- gree, with these abfurd fashions, ed with a gorget and the other im- which they would not quit for all plements thereunto belonging, a the world. I had a private 20dress very inconvenient, but which dience (according to ceremony) certainly' fhows the neck and shape of balf an 'rur, and then all the to great advantage. I cannot for- orher ladies were permitted to come bear giving you some description and make their court. I was perof the fashions here, which are fectly charmed with the empress ; more monstrous and contrary to all I cannot however tell you that ber common senle and reason, than 'tis features are regular; her eyes are


not large, but have a lively look has something very formal in it. full of sweetness; her complexion. The empress Amelia, dowager of the finest I ever saw ; her nose and the late emperor Joseph, came forehead well made, but her mouth this evening to wait on the reignhas ten thousand charms, that' ing empress, followed by the two touch the soul. When the smiles, arch-duchesses her daughters, who 'tis with a beauty and sweetness are very agreeable young printhat forces adoration. She has a cesses. Their Imperial majesties valt ntity of fine fair hair ; but rose and went to meet her at the then her person !-one must speak door of the room, after which she of it poetically to do it rigid juf- was seated in an armed chair next tice; all that the poets have said the empress, and in the same manof the mien of Juno, the air of ner at fupper, and there the men Venus, come not up to the truth.' had the permission of paying their The Graces move with her; the court. The arch-duchesses fat on famous statue of Medicis was not chairs with backs without arms. formed with more delicate propor

'The table was entirely served, and tions ; nothing can be added to all the dishes set on by the empress's the beauty of her neck and hands. maids of honour, which are twelve Till I saw them, I did not believe young ladies of the first quality. there were any in nature so perfect, They have no falary, but their and I was, almost sorry that my chamber at court, where they live rank here did not permit me to

in a sort of confinement, not being kiss them; but they are kissed suf-suffered to go to the assemblies or ficiently, for every body, that public places in town, except in waits on her, pays that homage at compliment to the wedding of a their entrance, and when they take fifter maid, whom the emprefs alleave. When the ladies were come ways presents with her picture set in, she sat down at Quinze. I in diamonds. The three first of could not play at a game I had them are called Ladies of the Key, never seen before, and the ordered and wear gold keys by their sides; me a seat at her right hand, and but what I find most pleasant, is had the goodness to talk to me

the custom, which obliges them as very much, with that grace, so long as they live, after they have natural to her. I expected every left the empress's fervice, to make moment, when the men were to her some present every year on the come in to pay their court; but day of her fealt. Ker majesty is this drawing room is

very different served by no married women but from that of England; no

the Grand Maitrelle, who is geneenters it but the grand maiter, rally a widow of the first quality, who comes in to advertise the em always very old, and is at the same press of the approach of the em- time groom of the fole and mother peror. His Imperial majesty did 'of the maids.

The dressers are me the honour of speaking to me not, at all, in the figure they prein a very obliging manner, but tend to in England, being looked he never speaks to any of the other upon no otherwise than as downladies, and the whole pafes with right chamber-maids.

I had an a gravity and air of ceremony that audience next day of the empress

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