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Ginn, and Dr. Ginn did not recommend any other physican or suggest any line of treatment, and as to the three cases of diphtheria just across the street from the Yohe family, in which I live, the Yohe family and this family which was sick with said diphtheria did not associate at all. The case of diphtheria in the house in which I live, I believe, is due from old clothing bought and worn by the family that lived upstairs at that time in the house in which I live. This was in the month of April, 1899.

State of Indiana, Madison County, ss:

JENNIE METZKER.

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this 13th day of March, 1900.

My commission expires April 28, 1901.

JOHN B. MCINTYRE,

Notary Public.

Dr. J. N. Hurty, Indianapolis, Ind.:

Elwood, Ind., April 5, 1900.

Dear Doctor-In reference to the two affidavits in reference to Dr. Ginn's duty in one case of diphtheria in the family of one Yohe, would say that I adminstered antitoxine in consultation with Dr. Hopenrath, and was never discharged.

In the case of one Parsley (diphtheria) gave antitoxine after Dr. Millikan had refused a consultation and after he left the case, although demanding a consultation previously. I gave the serum for "humanity's sake," so says Dr. Nourse, being present.

Too much politics.

Yours fraternally,

C. N. SUTTNER.

To the Honorable, the State Board of Health of the State of Indiana:
In the matter of the charges preferred against J. F. Ginn, M. D.,
Secretary of the Board of Health of the city of Elwood, Ind.

State of Indiana, Madison County, ss:

J. F. Ginn, being duly sworn, on oath says: I am the identical person mentioned in the foregoing entitled proceeding. On the 22d day of March, 1900, at the city of Elwood, Madison County, Ind., I had a conversation with John P. Yohe, and during that conversation said John P. Yohe denied that he signed, subscribed and swore to the affidavit filed in this matter purporting to have been signed and sworn to by him before Eli P. Myers, on or about the 12th day of February, 1900.

J. F. GINN. Subscribed and sworn to before me this 4th day of April, 1900. JOHN B. MCINTYRE,

Notary Public, Madison County, State of Indiana.

My commission expires April 28, 1901.

4-Bd. of Health.

To the Honorable, the State Board of Health of the State of Indiana: In the matter of the charges against J. F. Ginn, M. D., Health Officer of the city of Elwood, Madison County, Ind.

State of Indiana, County of Madison, ss:

Mary J. Richards swears that she was on the 24th day of March, 1899, present at the John Yohe house, on Main street, between Eighth and Ninth streets, in the city of Elwood, Indiana, wherein there were two cases of "laryngeal diphtheria," and upon said 24th day of March, 1899, Dr. J. F. Ginn was called in and carded the house and notified Mr. John Yohe and family not to go away from said Yohe house so long as said diphtheria was contained therein, and that said house was quarantined by said Dr. Ginn. And I further swear that I was present at all the conversation that took place with and between the said Yohe family and Dr. Ginn, at said above named date at said above named house, and that Dr. Ginn did not state to John Yohe or any one else that the cases were being neglected and (not) treated in any way to meet his (Dr. Ginn's) approval, and I further state that Dr. Ginn did not at said above named date suggest any line of treatment, and he (Dr. Ginn) did not recommend any other physician to said Yohe family.

MARY J. RICHARDS.

State of Indiana, Madison County, ss:
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 13th day of March, 1900.
JOHN B. MCINTYRE,

My commission expires April 28. 1901.

Notary Public.

CHARGE NUMBER ONE-EXHIBIT.

Oral statement taken by stenographer:

This case was treated for several days as catarrhal croup. The impression of the friends was that it was similar to bronchitis or pneumonia, and when I got the 'phone message that it was membranous croup, I went out there and these two ladies invited me to come in. Mrs. Metzker asked me about the antitoxine. I always say that I approve of its use, and she asked me why the other physicians did not use it. I told her they did, and that I did not know of a physician in the city that did not use it. She said that Dr. Hopenrath had left the case. "Well," I says, "that little child is dying and this other one will die, but the cases are not mine, but it is my duty to card the house." I did. I did not get the report of this until the next day. I called Dr. Hopenrath up immediately and asked for a contagious disease report. He sent it by mail.

This man was not a butcher, he was simply an assistant to a butcher; that is, he hauled from the slaughter-house to the butcher shop, and I do not think he did, and know he did not, with my knowledge or consent, go to and from the house while the disease was present. I do not think he did, for the butcher asked me if I could not liberate the man, as they were a poor family, and to let the husband out, and I told him just as soon as I see there is no further development of the disease.

CHARGE NUMBER TWO.

Elwood, Ind., March 10, 1900.

Dr. Hurty, Secretary State Board of Health:

Dear Doctor-I herein charge Dr. Ginn with failure to obey rules and by-laws of the State Board of Health, and cite the following cases:

On January 9, 1900, was called to see a child of Sherman and Lucy Parsley. Later in the day Dr. Ginn called, during my absence, and without my knowledge or consent and without being called by the family. He went in (being Health Officer he was admitted), examined the case, caused the family to think the child was worse than it really was, suggested a change of treatment, and made arrangements with another doctor to have a treatment that met his (Dr. Ginn's) approval instituted instead of mine, and otherwise meddled, altogether out of line of duty as Health Officer, causing me in self-defense to retire from the case.

State of Indiana, Madison County, ss:

J. H. MILLIKAN.

Subscribed and sworn to before me, this the 10th day of February,

1900.

JOSEPH W. KNOTT,
Notary Public.

My commission expires June 25, 1902.

ANSWER TO CHARGE NUMRER TWO.

The facts in the Parsley case are:

January -, 1900, Dr. J. H. Millikan telephoned me from the "Calloway" block, saying that he thought he had discovered a bad case of diphtheria in the building, and if I could come over directly he would wait for me. I went over at once and met him in the hallway. Together we went into the room where the child was and examined the case. I left J. H. Milikan there and went to the high school building and sent two sisters of the sick child home. I directed the superintendent of the school to thoroughly disinfect the desks of these children. I went to a drug store and procured a quantity of formaldehyde and carbolic acid and gave instructions as to how the janitor was to use it. This was in the afternoon.

In the afternoon I thoroughly disinfected the hall and stairway, and while engaged in this work I was asked to come in and explain more fully about disinfecting. Mrs. Parsley was very anxious about her sick child's condition. The doctor had left him lying in a stupor in the forenoon, and at this time, afternoon, he was comatose and cyanotic. Observing this I went to Dr. J. H. Millikan's office then and explained the boy's condition to him.

While there, I asked Dr. J. H. Millikan his opinion of antitoxine. He told me that he was not greatly impressed with it, but that this would be a good case to try it on; that if I would procure it he would use it. I made arrangements for its use and called him, J. H. Millikan, by 'phone, when he said that he would first see the mother and then let me know.

About 4:30 p. m. Dr. C. N. Suttner called and asked me to bring the antitoxine of a potency to the house where he said he and Dr. J. H. Millikan would meet me. I did so. Dr. Millikan then announced his intention of withdrawing from the case. All the doctors present-Nourse, of Alexandria; Stockhardt, Suttner and Lyself of Elwood-remonstrated with him and most kindly and emphatically asked him to reconsider his determination, without avail. The mother of the sick boy and also his two sisters asked him not to leave the case, but their requests did not change the doctor's purpose.

After J. H. Milikan left the house C. N. Suttner, M. D., Drs. Nourse, Stockhardt and myself examined the boy's case, and decided the case warranted the use of antitoxine, which C. N. Suttner then adminstered, with the result that the child recovered.

I did not criticise Dr. J. H. Millikan's conduct or treatment of the The other Parsley children escaped the infection.

case.

State of Indiana, Madison County, ss:

J. F. Ginn, being duly sworn, on oath says that he is the identical person referred to in the foregoing statement; that he has read the same and knows the contents thereof; that the same is true to his own knowledge.

J. F. GINN.

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 22d day of March, 1900.
JOHN B. MCINTYRE,

My commission expires April 28, 1901.

Notary Public.

CHARGE NUMBER ONE-EXHIBIT.

Oral statement taken by stenographer:

Supplementing this, as I said to you, I furnished the antitoxine, furnished the formaldehyde, and happened to be in the house, showing the lady how to do the spraying and the proportion of formaldehyde mixed with the water, and she made the remark while I was doing this: "Doctor, I can't get Leo wakened up, and ever since Dr. Millikan left we can't arouse him." I noticed the appearance of the child, but did not go closer to him than the door of his room, and this was about 1:30. As quick as I got through sprinkling, I went to Dr. Millikan's office, without going near the child; never said a single word to the mother about the doctor or his treatment, but went over to the doctor's office and called him out, as there were friends in his room, and said: "Doctor, that child is sinking." He says, "That does not surprise me, for I gave the mother an unfavorable answer this morning, and told them when I was up there that I had no hope for the child at all." I said: "What do you think about using antitoxine?" He said: "We are opposed to it." "Do you

not think it cheaper than a funeral? I will get it if you feel disposed to use it."

I told him I would go to see the Mayor first, and if I could get it I would telephone, and I did telephone him, and he said he would go to

see the mother. He had already made arrangements with Dr. Suttner to administer it, and I met him at the drug store just as I came out. He went to the mother and told her they were going to use it, and he steps into the adjoining room of another physician and came out just as we I went to the head of the stairs. He got his antitoxine syringe and Dr. Millikan says: "Won't retain this case." Well, Dr. Suttner talked with him and reasoned with him, told him that we believed that it was necessary, but he would not change his mind. Dr. Nourse, of Alexandria, came and Dr. Suttner explained the situation to him, and he and also the mother and two sisters asked him not to leave the case; that they thought this a case where it should be used. Still he would not have it. Still we remonstrated, but he left the case, and after he had gone we examined the case and decided that the case warranted the use of antitoxine which Dr. Suttner then administered, with the result that the child recovered.

Dr. Nourse says, "If Dr. Hurty was here and you stood back on your duty like that he would reprove you pretty severely. My advice to you is to order now the administration of antitoxine." The next morning the child was sitting up asking for its breakfast, when I was there at 8 o'clock, and from the free use and attention, the other little girls did not take it.

ANSWER TO CHARGE NUMBER TWO.

To the Honorable, the State Board of Health of the State of Indiana:
In the matter of the charge preferred against Dr. J. F. Ginn, M. D.,
Health Officer of the city of Elwood, Madison County, Indiana.
State of Indiana, Madison County, ss:

Lucy Parsley, being first duly sworn, do depose and say that the facts of the case are that Leo Parsley, my son, was on the 9th day of January, 1900, very sick with diphtheria. This was in the morning of the above named date. I called in Dr. Millikan. When he arrived at my house, he said all hopes were gone; that he did not think he could save my child. He suggested to me that he, Dr. Millikan, would use or have it used by another doctor, "antitoxine," and later on in the afternoon he brought with him Dr. Suttner, who administered the antitoxine, with the result that my child recovered. In no way did Dr. J. F. Ginn officiously meddle in the case, nor was Dr. Cinn guilty of any unprofessional conduct. And I positively swear that Dr. Ginn did not suggest any treatment or change of treatment, and he (Dr. Ginn) did not make any arrangements for another doctor with me or any of my family. But Dr. J. H. Millikan suggested the change of treatment and asked me if I had any objections if he used or had it used, the medicine called antitoxine. I told him no, to do anything he could to save my child, and he had Dr. Suttner to use the medicine, and he (Dr. Millikan) retired from the case. LUCY PARSLEY.

State of Indiana, Madison County, ss:

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 13th day of March, 1900. JOHN B. MCINTYRE,

My commission expires April 28, 1901.

Notary Public.

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