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the continuance of peace Mould render ployed for the fea service, for the year us less able to renew the war.

1803, including 12,000 marines. Air. Fox animadverted on the speech “ That a sum of 1,202,500l. be granted of Lord Temple, and went over nearly for wages for the said 50,000 men, for the same argument as on the preceding thirteen lunar months, at the rate of evening

il. 175. per month, per man. Mr. Windham replied to Mr. Fox. " That a fum of 1.235,000l. be granted

The Chancellor of the Exchequer con. for victuals for the said men, for thirteen demned Mr. W.'s defpondency; and in lunar months, at the rate of il. 385. per the coure of his speech, in reply to a month per man. financial queition by Mr. Elliot, 23 to " That a sum of 1,950,000l. be what would be the economy of peace, he granted for wear and tear of the thips on faid, that the saving might be twenty- board of which the laid men are to be tive millions per annum, being nearly employed, for thirteen lanar months, at • the difference between the expences of 31. per man per month. the lait year of the war and a peace eitab- " Thai a luin of 162,500l. he granted didunent.

for ordnance stores, for the sea service, for TUESDAY, NOV. 30.

the laid tips, at the rate of 25. per man Several petitions' from different parts per month of the country were presented, com- Mr Corry, after Mowing the necessity plaining of undue ele fions.-Leave was of enabling the Lord Lieutenant of given for a bill to enable the Directors of Ireland to give orders for the enrolment the Grand Junction Canal Company to of the Militia, moved " That the Comraide a farther fum of money.

miflioners of the Treasury of Ireland be WEDNESDAY, DEC. 1.

authorised to advance the sum of 40,0col. The Secretary at War presented the to defray the expence of railing the Army Eltimates.

Militia of Ireland, &c. &c. Agreed to. Gen. Gascoigne, after alluding to that

THURSDAY, DEC. 2. part of the Speech which tated the On the vote for 50,000 le men being commerce of this country to be in a molt bronight up, Aurishing condition, moved " That Mr. T. Grenville condemned the novel there be laid before the House, an account and unprecedented mode now adopred, of of the number of lips, with the amount calling for such a number of men in of tonnage, and the number of men time of peace, without any explanation employed, who have cleared outwards, why they were voted ; ihis was the and entered inwards, from O&tober 10, more fingular, because the late Speecii 1200, to Otober 10, 1801, and froni from the Throne was of a warlike nature. that period to Otober 10, 1802, diltin- In June, when 70,00 men were vored, Berishing Foreign from British thips." the Minister expressed his beliet that the

'I hie Chancellor of the Exchequer said, next vote would only be for 30,000; the that this information could not be given Houle ought, therefore, to know the till the month of January; though it grounds of the vote they were about to might be produced as far as it related to give. Mr. G. then took a view of the the port of London.

relative licuation of Europe, and the state General Tarleton said, he had reason to o the navy of the different Powers, and know that she commerce of this country expressed come alarm for the safety of our was in as fourishing a ttate as it could Weit India poflellions : in thorí, from pitbly be after so long a war.

the preponderating power of France, be Alter some farther conversation, the could not conlider our situations in the motiin was negatived.

Eat as perfe&tly secure; but as it had Ir a Committee of Supply, the Chan- been laid that this country could have no cilirotih: Exchequer moved that a fum apprehension from the Navy of France, 0° 2,781,5321. 155. 3{J. be granted to be concluded with wishing to know what pig off Exchequer Buls, iflved in pur- was the object of the present Vote? juance of the 4żd George III. The ob- The Chancellor of the Exchequer de. ject of this motion was to discharge those fended the conduct of Miniiters, and enbills which bone an interest of 3!d. a day; tered into a justification of the meature in the other Excheque Bills only bore an question. He oblerved that 450 o men j: teruit of jl. pet 121. The motion was were voted as the Peace Establiment in agreed to

1793; the object of the present vote was, Sr P. Stephens moved the following to continue the number for the erfuing lev.lutions, winich were agreed to, viz. year; ard the Military Etablidimest * '" That 50,000 mien thould be cm


was intended to be much larger than at for the service of the year 1803, and any former period, because it was thought, intimated that this day fe'nnight he that in order to preferve tranquility, a hould move for a sum of 4,030, 0col. defensive system thould be adopted. The to be raised on the growing produce of Minister then adverted to the naval fitu. the country. stion of France and Holland, and drew a

MONDAY, DEC. 6. favourable pi&ture of our force at sea. Several Accounts were laid before the He positively contradicted the rumour of House, and Petitions presented. 27 sail of the line having left Toulon, a Mr. Blackburne prefented a Penitim rumour which, he said, must have ori. from Middlesex, from W. Mainwaring, ginated in the worst of motives. Ble Eq. complaining of partiality in the then took a comparative view of the nai Sheriffs, Rawlins and Cox, as Returning vies of the Continental Powers, and that Officers, during the late election; and of Great Britain *. From this com- also of corrupt practices being emplayed parilon, it appeared that we had an on the election, which was ordered to excefs, above the combined force, of 60 be taken into confideration on the 12th sail of the line. In short, the reason of of April. to large a Vote, was the anxiety of Mi. Vansttart moved to bring in a bill Ministers to be prepared for difficulties, to amend an Ad of the 411 George III. ihongh he did not conlider the prefent as which related to Navy Binns, which were the permanent Peace Etablishment. circulating at an interelt of 3d per cent.

Sir S. mith thought that the Dock. per diem. The reason of this motion yards ought to be manned as well as the was, he said, that the flourishing stare Navy; and alluded to the circumstances of the country enabled Government to of the discharge of a number of artificers, circulate Exchequer Bills and other ftwho might enter into foreign fervice. curities at a lels interell, by which a la. He made soine humane remarks on the ving of 90,000l. a year would be made to. discharge of feamen, by which they were the publick. Leave was given. left to become beggars. He then de.

TUESDAY, DEC. 7. picted with great feeling, the prelent

Election Petitions for a number of dittreis of hundreds who had applied to places were prelented and several bills him. After itating his want of con

read. fidence in the pacific intentions of the

WEDNESDAY, DEC. 8. French, and touching on several other After the private bulineis of the day points corrected with the subject, par- had been discussed. ticularly on one relative to the tale of The Secretary at War, in the Complaces of trust in this country, he con- mittee of Supply, submitted the proposed cluded by concurring in the Vote. Military Establishment for the ensuing

Mr. Sturges went nearly cver the year: he admitted that the Estimates Tame ground as Mr. Grenville. The prelented the details of a Military EitabRefolutions were agreed to.

lilliment, greater, both with respect to. FRIDAY, DEC. 3.

the number of men, and the expence that The Irish Militia Bill, and Ordnance would be incurred, than any which had Elimates were brougat up.

ever been maintained by this country in In a Commirtee of Ways and Means, a period of peace, but it was evident the Chancellor of the Exchequer proceeded that a larger establishment was necessary to move different Relolutions; among in the prelent pofture of affairs ; for the others was one for a grant of 5,0co.cool. overgrown power of France had now reaon Exchequer Bills. From his ob- lised all the dreams of of Louis XIV. fervations, it appeared, that at present the The Secretary then took a view of the amount of the outtlanding Bills is power of France at the commencement 15.080,000l. and the prefent amount of of the prelent year, the total amount of the Navy Debtis 4,500.cool. a reduction which, it appears, was 930,000 men of full one-half once the Peace; after from which we were compelled to keep ailuding to a plan under consideration, up a much larger force than in any prerelative to Exchequer Bills, he coạcluded ceding period of peace. He then prowith moving that the sum of 5,000,ocol. ceeded to answer some ohjections which be raised by Loan and Exchequer Bills, had before been made relative to our estab.

The total number of Ships in commission, is 38 of the line, 13 of 50 guns, 107 fi igates, and 143 floops. There are in ordinary at the different ports, 134 of the Jine, 12 of 50, 103 frigates, and 75 Hoops. 002

lifhmert, lishment, and denied that there was any that of the last year of war by 10,130,00ol. danger to be apprehended, in a conftitu. In liort, it appeared from the remainder tional view, from the intended number of the Secretary's Aatements, that our of the military. The force intended to united force would be (exclusive of the be kept up was then explained by the Army of India) upwards of 200,000 Secretary and from some economical men: this be thought a refutation of arrangements, it appeared that nearly the charges of timidity, &c. made against 50,000l. per year would be saved to the Ministers, and concluded with moving publick: he admitted that there would be the firft Relolution. some difference between the present flate- Mr. Banks made a speech of some ment and the Abstract (given below*), but length, the tenor of which was, that if from the particulars of his statement, it re- we were quiet and contented at home, it fulted that the whole of the expence that was not half a million of men on the would be incurred for the Army for the opposite coaft that ought to trike a ensuing year would be, as appeared by panic amongst us. "the Eitimate, 5,270,00ol. and together Sir W. W. Wynne thought that the with some necessary additions, it would Militia men ought not to be discharged fall within five millions and a half: before the termination of the period for this was less than the expence of the which they were enlisted. present year by 2,070,ocol, and less than Sir E. Coote conádered the proposed


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1. Guards, Garrisons,&c. 2. Forces in the flanta.

tions, &c. 3. India Forces 4. Troops and Compa

nies for recruiting

ditto 5. Recruiting and Con.

tingencies 6. Generaland Staff Officers,

with a State of the Parliculars of

the Charge 7. Offices 8. Allowance to Inn

keepers, Beer-money and . Allow. ances to Men on a

March in Ireland 9. Half Pay 10. Ditto, for the Ame

rican Forces 11. Ditro, for the Scorch

Rrigade 12 Widows' Pensions 13. Volunteer Corps 14. Barrack Department 15. Foreign Corps 16. Medicines, Bedding,


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132,8804,406,933 11
22,814 518,653 11

21,381,776 18 55,785,710 9 7 4

518,653 11

Deduct the India Fores

110,065 3,888,279 19 rol

5,270,056 18 3


force to be necessary, from prudential Mr. S) bring myself to think that the motives.

insatiable ambition of the First Consul, Lord Temple faid, he could not op. aiming at universal dominion, would pose the motion, on account of the excess very willingly leave the fraction that now of force it proposed, becaule he was belongs to England. His power and convinced that the ruling passion of his inclination nult nécessarily be proFrance was to destroy this country. gressive. France is by no means what But the House might be voting an im- it was under the fceptre of the Bourbons. mense eltablilament without the least They had some regard to hereditary sucinformation concerning the real nature cellion, and the various relations copie of it: he thought it incumbent on Mi. posed with it : but Bonaparte is under nifters to explain why they were now ihe moral and physical necessity of comproposing this establishment, when they ing to an agreement with his subjects, had been following a fyftem of reduction that he will make them Masters of the all the summer : he then proceeded to World, if they will but content to be bis censure the condu&t of Minifters on this Slaves." He proceeded to comment at and other points, and concluded with length on the speeches of most of the obferving, that it was on the neceility of Members who had {poken in the present grating great supplies that he grounded debate, and on those who persevered in bis assent to the prelent vote.

the war againa Mr. Fox's warning voice. Gen. Maitland paid some high com. and concluded with declaring his opie pliments to the Secretary at War for his nion, that this great country had no rejudicious speech ; thought the prepara- treat in insignificance, and that if we tions we were making jult and neceifary, were reluctantly compelled into a war, and such as our anceitors would have we should pursue it with vigour and made under fimilar circumstances. effect, or resolve to perish in the sacred

General Tarleton regarded the present fame, with glory and with honour. as a vote for the security of the country ; Mr. Canning complimented Mr. She. and though he had voted against the war ridan, and palled an eulogium on Mr. conscientiousy, he voted for the present Pict. The debate continued till half eltablishment from a conviction of its ne. past three o'clock in the morning, in the ceflity.

courle of which, Mr. Fox spoke, and was Mr. Archdall animadverted on the con. answered by Mr. Windham. duet of France ; and thought, that if we The Chancellor of the Exchequer, in are doomed to fall after our exertions and answer to some questions put during the advantages, we need not be alhamed of debate, Atated, that circumstances bad our delti uction.

arilen since the signing of the Definitive Mr. Whitbread adverted to the inde. Treaty, which tended to support the opicision of Ministers, and thougkt that the nion in favour of large eltablishments; only point with regard to France that but that from the flourihing hate of the was worthy of our attention, was her revenue during the two last quarters, political power ; yet he did not see how there was every reason to believe that the che prelent vote tended to diminish that means would arise from it of defraying tremendous power. He said, he should all expences. delight to fee the Governident of this

THURSDAY, DEC. 9. country placed in the hands of one of his The Irish Militia Bill was read a friends, who would conduct it to the third tiine, and palled. higheft pitch of political happinels.

Mr. Vanlitiart moved for an account The Hon. D Ryder detended the con. of money paid to the King's Household, duet of Mr. Pitt, and approved of the and not provided for by Parliament.establishment in question.

Agreed to. Mr. Sheridan, in his usual Irain of

NAVY ESTIMATES. satire, thought it incumbent on him to On the Report of the Resolutions of prove to the people, that none of their Wednesday night being brought up, Members were scrambling for power or Mr. T. Grenville recalled the attention emolument, but only differing as to the of the House to the grounds he before best means of providing for the security submitted, against voting for 50,000 seaof the country : in observing on the men; he argued at some length to show 1peech of Mr. Banks, he felt surprised the necessity of an explanation from Mi. that any man could doubt of the danger nilters, why this force was required : he in which we are placed, who had viewed next took a view of the different speeches the map of Europe. “I cannot (said made the preceding evening, catered

largely largely into a defence of the conduct of apprised the House of his intention to the late Ministers, condemned Conti. move for granting 4,000,cool, on the nental alliances, and fincerely hoped growing produce of the Consolidated that Mr. Pitt wyuld soon be reitored to Bund: he did this on the probability power.

of nur being in a prosperous situation, Lord Hawkesbury replied to Mr. and also in an embarrassed one ; for in Grenville, and entered, as usual, into a consequence of the increase in our defence of the conduct of Ministers; revenue, there might be a larger sum in the course of his speech, he touched in the Exchequer than that for which on all the points adduced by Mr. Gren- credit had been taken by Government, ville, admitted the right of Parliament and without permillion of Parliament, to control him and his colleagues ; this redundance could not be applied and closed with expressing the with of to the public service. Up to the 5th Minitters to submit to the opinion of of April, 1803, he had taken credit for the House.

4,500,cool. as the growing produce of Sir F. Burdett, in delivering his the consolidated Fund. On the sth opinion on the subject before the of October, it had amounted to Houfe, thought we ought to abftain, 3,800,000l. 10 that there would be a as mach as possible, t om all Conti- contiderable surplus ; and as the House nental Alliances; he was surprised to would doubtless vote the supplies of bear the return of Mr. Pitt wiihed for; the year, he thought proper to lay touched on the old grounds of the before them the fate of our finance, neceflity of a reform in our folitary previous to Christinas. Before procell lyftem; and concluded with his during the Ways and Means, he ad. opinion, that the great power of France verted to the arrangements of the prewould fpeedily fall.

sent year. A capital of 97,000,oool. Mr. Browne, Mr. Calcraft, and Dr. · had been provided for ; the Income Lawrence, delivered their lentiments. qu* was mortgaged for 55,000,00cl. : The Chancellor of the Exchequet which, together with intereit, loan, &c. ob:erved, that there seemed to be a announice to the stock of 97,000,ocol. Systematic determination to impreis an above mentioned, the intereit of which opinion, that Ministers had compro was 3,100,600l. He aow admitted the miled the character, and tarnished the charge that had been made againat bonour, of the Country. He considered him, of loving laid on more taxes than the arguments that had been used as a were required; the statement, however, proof of the neceflity of the voie. he had formerly made, had been real

Mr. Fox fpoke in refutation of the ized, namely, that the produce of the last Chancellor, but regretred the aggrant. gear would not be tort of 4,000,oool.; disement of France.

for tliefirit quarter's taxes had amount. After several other Members had ed 10 1,170,000). In the courle of the delivered their opinions, the Report current year 18,000,ocol. of unfunded was read and agreed to.

den: bad been taken out of the market FRIDAY, DEC. 10.

by Government; and he was able to A number of Petitions were pre- flate, that the grants of last year, with Sented, and Tome private butiness dit the exception of the Army Extraordi. cufied.

naries, would be fufficient to provide Capi. Markham give notice, that on for all tlie services ci the year. The Monday he should move for leave to excess in the Army Extraordinaries bring in a Bill tor appointing a Coom would probably be more than 1,000,000). miriec to enquire into abules in the but ile bad the fatistaction to ttate, that Navy.

the whole amount of the Army ExtraThe Attorney General moved for ordinaries of the next year are not leare to bring in a Bill for the more likely to be half the amount of viole caly tranfportation of reions; the Bill of the current year. The Navy Debt was read.

had been reduced one hair, from FINANCE-The Houfe baving re- 9,000,ocol. to 4 500,ocol. The Unfolved itself into a Committee of Ways funded Debi, at the comniencement of and Veans,

the last Seslion, amounted to 37,377,2601. The Chancellor of the Exchequer The present Untunded Debt moved for the Amount of the Produce 19,580,000l, including 4,500,00cl. tlie of the Permaient Tases for the vear amount of the Navy Debt for the year; J@O2. Ele than observed, that he had but he was not able to flate this with


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