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the continuance of peace Mhould render ployed for the sea service, for the year us less able to renew the war.

1803, including 12,000 marires. Air. Fox animadverted on the speech “ That a sum of 1,202,5col. be granted of Lord Temple, and went over nearly for wages for the said 50,000 men, for the same argument as on the preceding thirteen lunar months, at the rate of evening.

il 173. per month, per man. Mr. Windham replied to Mr. Fox. “ That a fum of 1.235,000l. be granted

The Chancellor of the Exchequer con. for victuals for the said men, for thirteen demned Mr. W.'s defpondency; and in lunar months, at the rate of 11. 185. per the course of his speech, in reply to a month per man. financial queition by Mr. Elliot, as to " That a sum of 1,950,000l. be what would be the economy of peace, he granted for wear and tear of the thips on faid, that the saving might be twenty- board of which the laid men are to be tive millions per annum, being nearly employed, for thirteen lunar months, at the difference' hetween the expences of 31. per man per month. the lait year of the war and a peace eltab " That a fun of 162,500l. he granted dunent,

for ordnance stores, for the sea service, for TUESDAY, NOV. 30. the said thips, at the rate of 2s. per m

man Several petitions from different parts per month " of the country were presented, com Mr Corry, after howing the necessity plaining of undue eledions.-Leave was of enabling the Lord Lieutenant of given for a bill to enaile the Directors of Ireland to give orders for the enrolment the Grand Junction Canal Company to of the Militia, moved " That the Comraite a farther fuum of money.

missioners of the Treasury of Ireland be WEDNESDAY, DEC. 1.

authorifed to advance the sum of 40,0col. The Secretary at War presented the to defray the expence of railing the Army Eltimates.

Militia of Ireland, &c. &c. Agreed to, Gen. Gascoigne, after alluding to that

THURSDAY, DEC. 2. şart of the Speech which fated the On the vote for 50,000 le men being commerce of this country to be in a molt brought up, A surishing condition, moved “That Mr. T. Grenville condemned the novel there be laid before the House, an account and unprecedented mode now adopred, of of the number of ships, with the amount calling for fuch a number of men in of tonnage, and the number of men time of peace, without any explanation employed, wito have cleared outwards, why they were voted; ihis was the and entered inwards, from Oktober 10, more fingular, because the late Speecin 1200, to Oktober 10, 1801, and froni from the Throne was of a warlike nature: th: 1t period to October 10, 1802, diltin. In June, whien 70,00 men were vored, guiling Foreign trom British thips." the Minister expresied his beliet that the

The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, next vote would only be for 30,000; the that this information could not be given Houle ought, therefore, to know the till the month of January; though it grounds of the vote they were about to might be produced as far as it related to give. Mr. G. then took a view of the the port of London.

relative lituation of Europe, and the itate General Tarleton said, he had reason to o the navy of the different Powers, and know that the commerce of this country expressed Tome alarm for the safety of our was in as flourishing a itate as it could Weit India poflellions : in short, from pistibly be after so long a war.

the preponderating power of France, be Alter fome farther conversation, the could not conlider our situations in the moriin was negatived.

Eait as perfefly secure; but as it had Ir: a Committee of Supply, the Chan. been taid that this country could have no cilisotil: Exchequer moved that a fum apprehenfion from the Navy of France, 0° 2,781,5321. 155. 31. be granted to be concluded with withing to know what pig off Excheqner Buls, issued in pur. was the object of the present Vote? Juance of the 4 z1 George III. The ob The Chancellor of the Exchequer de. jee! of this motion was to discharge those fended the conduct of Ministers, and enbills which buse an interest of 3!d. a day; tered into a justification of the meature in the other Exchequier Bills only bore an question. He oblerved that 45 0 o men j: ter it of jl. petuar. The notion was were veted as the Peace Ettablishment in arred to

1793; the object of the prefent vote was, Sir P. Stephens moved the following to continue the number for the eetuing *It'lucions, winch were agreed to, viz. year; and the Military Etabliments

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was intended to be much larger than at for the service of the year 1803, and any former period, because it was thought, jotimated that this day fe'nnight he that in order to preserve tranquility, a fhould move for a fun of 4,000,ocol. defensive system thould be adopted. The to be raised on the growing produce of Minister then adverted to the naval situ. the country. stion of France and Holland, and drew a

MONDAY, DEC. 6. favourable pi&ture of our force at sea. Several Accounts were laid before the He pofitively contradicted the rumour of House, and Petitions presented. 27 sail of the line having left Toulon, a Mr. Blackburne presented a Petition rumour which, he said, must have ori. from Middlesex, from W. Mainwaring, ginated in the worst of motives. He Esq. complaining of partiality in the then took a comparative view of the na... Sheriffs, Rawlins and Cox, as Returning vies of the Continental Powers, and that Officers, during the late election; and of Great Britain *. From this com ailo of corrupt practices being employed parilon, it appeared that we had an on the election, which was ordered to excels, above the combined force, of 60 be taken into confideration on the 12th sail of the line. In fhort, the reason of of April. to large a Vote, was the anxiety of Mr. Vansttart moved to bring in a bill Ministers to be prepared for difficulties, to amend an Act of the 41st George III. ihongh he did not consider the pretent as which related to Navy Birds, which were the permanent Peace Eitablishment. circulating at an interelt of 3 d per cent.

Sir S. Smith thought that the Dock. per diem. The reason of this motion yards ought to be manned as well as the was, he said, that the flourishing state Navy; and alluded in the circumstances of the country enabled Government to of the discharge of a number of artificers, circulate Exchequer Bills and other ftwho might enter into foreign fervice. curities at a leis interell, by which a laHe made some humane remarks on the ving of 90,000l. a year would be made to, di charge of feamen, by which they were the publick. Leave was given. left to become beggars. He then de.

TUESDAY, DEC. 7. picted with great feeling, the.pielent

Election Petitions for a number of dittrets of hundreds who had applice to places were presented and several bills him. After stating his want of con

read. fidence in the pacific intentions of the

WEDNESDAY, DEC. 8. French, and touching on several other After the private butinels of the day points cornected with the subject, par- had been discussed. ticularly on one relative to the sale of The Secretary at War, in the Com. places of trust in this country, he con mittee of Supply, submitted the proposed cluded by concurring in the Vote. Military Etablishment for the ensuing

Mr. Sturges went nearly cver the year: he admitted that the Estimates Same ground as Mr. Grenville. The presented the details of a Military EstabRefolutions were agreed to.

lillement, greater, both with respect to. FRIDAY, DEC. 3.

the number of men, and the expence that The Irish Militia Bill, and Ordnance would be incurred, than any which had Efimates were brougat up.

ever been maintained by this country in In a Committee of Ways and Means, a period of peace, but it was evident the Chancellor of the Exchequer proceeded that a larger establishment was necessary to move different Relolutions; among in the prelent pofture of affairs ; for the others was one for a grant of Soco.cool. overgrown power of France had now reaon Exchequer Bills. From his ob- lised all the dreams of of Louis XIV. fervations, it appeared, that at present the The Secretary then took a view of the amount of the outitanding Bills is power of France at the commencement 15.080,00ol. and the prefent amount of of the present year, the total amount of the Navy Debtis 4,500.00ol. a reduction which, it appears, was 930,000 men of full one-half Gince the Peace; after from which we were compelled to keep alluding to a plan under consideration, up a much larger force than in any prerelative to Exchequer Bills, he concluded ceding period of peace. He then prowith moving that the sum of 5,000,oool, ceeded to answer fome objections which be raised by Loan and Exchequer Bills, had before been made relative to our estab.

The total number of Ships in commission, is 38 of the line, 13 of 50 guns, 107 frigates, and 143 lloops. There are in ordinary at the different ports, 134 of the line, 12 of 50, 103 frigates, and 75 floops. 0.02

lidhment,

lishment, and denied that there was any that of the last year of war by 10,130,000l. danger to be apprehended, in a conititu. In Niort, it appeared from the remainder tional view, from the intended number of the Secretary's fatements, that our of the military. The force intended to united force would be (exclusive of the be kept up was then explained by the Army of India) upwards of 200,000 Secretary ; and from some economical men: this he thought a refutation of arrangements, it appeared that nearly the charges of timidity, &c. made against 50,000l. per year would be saved to the Ministers, and concluded with moving publick: he admitted that there would be the first Refolution. some difference between the present ftate Mr. Banks made a speech of some ment and the Abttract (given below*), but length, the tenor of which was, that if from the particulars of his statement, it re we were quiet and contented at home, it fulted that the whole of the expence that was not half a million of men on the would be incurred for the Army for the opposite coaft that ought to strike a ensuing year would be, as appeared by panic amongst us. the Fitimate, 5,270,00ol. and together Sir W. W. Wynne thought that the with some necefsary additions, it would Militia men ought not to be discharged fall within five millions and a balf: before the termination of the period for this was less than the expence of the which they were enlisted. present year by 2,070,ocol. and less than Sir E. Coote conádered the proposed

* ABSTRACT of the ESTIMATIS of ARMY SERVICES for 1803,

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1. Guards, Garrisons,&c. 2. Forces in the flanta

tions, &c. 3. India Forces 4. Troop, and Compa

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ditto 5. Recruiting and Con.

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6. Generaland Staff Offi-

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7. Offices
8. Allowance to Inn-

keepers, Beer-money, and ' Allow. ances to Men on a

March in Ireland 9. Half Pay 10. Diito, for the Ame

rican Forces II. Ditro, for the Scorch

Rrigade 12 Widows' Pensionis 13. Volunteer Corps 14. Barrack Department 15. Foreign Corps 16. Medicines, Bedding,

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110,065 3,388,279 19 sol

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force to be necessary, from prudential Mr. S) bring myself to think that the motives.

insatiable ambition of the First Consul, Lord Temple said, he could not op. aiming at universal dominion, would pose the motion, on account of the excess very willingly leave the fraction that now of force it propoted, becaule he was belongs to England. His power and convinced that the ruling passion of his inclination inult nécessarily be proFrance was to destroy this country. giessive. France is by no means what But the House might be voting an im it was under the fceptre of the Bourbons. mense eltablishment without the least They had some regard to hereditary fucinformation concerning the real nature cellion, and the various relations come of it: he thought it incumbent on Mi- posed with it: but Bonaparte is under nisters to explain why they were now ihe moral and physical necessity of comproposing this establithment, when they ing to an agreement with his subjects, had been following a fyltem of reduction that he will make them Masters of the all the summer : he then proceeded to World, if they will but content to be bis censure the conduct of Ministers on this Slaves." He proceeded to comment at and other points, and concluded with length on the speeches of most of the observing, that it was on the necesity of Members who had {poken in the present grareing great supplies that he grounded debate, and on those who persevered in bis assent to the prelent vote.

the war againMr. Fox's warning voice. Gen. Maitland paid some high com and concluded with declaring his opi pliments to the Secretary ac War for his nion, that this great country had judicious speech ; thought the prepara treat in insignificance, and that if we tions we were making jult and necessary, were reluctantly compelled into a war, and such as our anceitors would have we should pursue it with vigour and made under fimilar circumstances. effect, or resolve to perish in the sacred

General Tarleton regarded the present fame, with glory and with honour. as a vote for the security of the country ; Mr. Canning complimented Mr. She. and though he had voted against the war ridan, and passed an eulogium on Mr. conscientiously, he voted for the present Pict. The debate continued till half establishment from a conviction of its ne. past three o'clock in the morning, in the

courle of which, Mr. Fox spoke, and was Mr. Archdall animadverted on the con. answered by Mr. Windham. duct of France ; and thought, that if we The Chancellor of the Exchequer, in are doomed to tall after our exertions and answer to some questions put during the advantages, we need not be alhamed of debate, ftated, that circumstances had our delti uction.

arilen since the signing of the Definitive Mr. Whitbread adverted to the inde. Treaty, which tended to support the opi. cision of Ministers, and thougkt that the nion in favour of large eltablishments ; only point with regard to France that but that from the fourithing hate of the was worthy of our attention, was her revenue during the two last quarters, political power ; yet he did not see how there was every reason to believe that the the prelent vote tended to diminish that means would arise from it of defraying tremendous power. He said, he should all expences. delight to see the Governinent of this

THURSDAY, DEC. 9. country placed in the hands of one of his The Irish Militia Bill was read a friends, who would conduct it to the third time, and palled. highelt pitch of political happiness.

Mr. Vanitiart moved for an account The Hon. D Ryder detended the con. of money paid to the King's Household, duct of Mr. Pitt, and approved of the and not provided for by Parliament.establishment in queftion.

Agreed to. Mr. Sheridan, his usual Atrain of

NAVY ESTIMATES. satire, thought it incumbent on him to On the Report of the Resolutions of prove to the people, that none of their Wednesday night being brought up, Members were scrambling for power or Mr. T. Grenville recalled the attention emolument, but only differing as to the of the House to the grounds he before best means of providing for the security submitted, against voting for 50,000 feaof the country: in observing on the men; be argued at fome length to show 1peech of Mr. Banks, he felt surprised the neceffity of an explanation from Mi. that any man could doubt of the danger nitters, why this force was required : he in which we are placed, who had viewed next took a view of the different speeebes the map of Europe. “I cannot (faid made the preceding evening, catered

largely

ceility.

Before pro

largely into a defence of the conduct of apprised the House of his intention to the late Ministers, condemned Conti. move for granting 4,000,cool, on the nental alliances, and fincerely hoped growing produce of the Consolidated that Mr. Pitt wvuld soon be restored to Bund: he did this on the probability power

of nur being in a prosperous situation, Lord Hawkesbury replied to Mr. and also in an embarraléd one ; for in Grenville, and entered, as usual, into a consequence of the increafe in our defence of the conduct of Ministers; revenue, there might be a larger sum in the course of his speech, he touched in the Exchequer than that for which on all the points adduced by Mr. Gren- credit had been taken by Government, viile, admitted the right of Parliament and without permillion of Parliament, to control him and his colleagues ; this redundance could not be applied and closed with exprefling the with of to the public service. Up to the 5th Minitters to tubmit to the opinion of of April, 1803, he had taken credit for the House.

4,500,000l. as the growing produce of Sir F. Burdett, in delivering his the consolidated Fund. On the sth opinion on the subject before the of October, it had amounted to House, thought we ought to abstain, 3,800,000l. fo that there would be a as mach as possible, t om all Conti- conliderable surplus ; and as the House nental Alliances; he was surprised to would doubtless vote the supplies of hear the return of Mr. Pitt wiined for; the year, he thought proper to lay touched on the old grounds of the before them the date of our finance, neceffity of a reform in our folitary previous to Chriftias. cell fyltem; and concluded with liis ducing the Ways and Means, he ad. opinion, that the great power of France verted to the arrangements of the prewould fpeedily fall.

sent year. A capital of 97,000,ocol. Mr. Browne, Mr. Calcraft, and Dr. had been provided for ; the Income Liwrence, delivered their lentiments. qx was mortgaged for 55,000,00cl. · The Chancellor of the Exchequet which, together with intereit, loan, &c. obierved, that there seemed to be a ainounice to the stack of 97,000,ocol. Systematic determination to impress an above mentioned, the intereit of which opinion, that Ministers had compiro. was 3,100,00l. He now admitied the miled the character, and tarnished the charge that had been made again{t bonour, of the Country. He considered him, oi loving laid on more taxes than the arguments that had been used as a were required; the statement, however, proof of the neceflity of the vote. he had formerly made, had been real

Mr. Fox spoke in refutation of the ized, namely, that the produce of the last Chancellor, but regretred the aggrant. gear would not be abort of 4,000,000l. ; dilement of France.

for the firit quarter's taxes hail mountAfter several other Members had ed 101,170,100l. In the course of the delivered their opinions, the Repost current year 18,000,oool. of unfunded was read and agreed to.

debt had been taken out of the market FRIDAY, DEC. 10.

by Government ; and he was able to A number of Petitions were pre- flate, that the grants of latt year, with fented, and Tome private butinels dit the exception of the Army Extraordi. cufied.

naries, would be sufficient to provide Capi. Markham give notice, that on for all the services of the year. The Monday he should move for leave to excess in the Army Extraordinaries bring in a Bill for appointing a Com. would probably be more than 1,000,000). mittee to enquire into abules in the but lze bad the latistaetion to itate, that Navy.

the whole amount of the Army ExtraThe Attorney General moved for ordinaries of the next year are not deare to bring in a Bill for the more likely to be half the amount of whole caly tranfportation of feions; the Bill of the current year. The Navy Debt kas read.

had been reduced one haif, from FINANCE - The Houfe baving re 9,000,0col. to 4 500,ocol. The Un. folved itself into a Committee of Ways funded Debi, at the comniencement of and Means,

the last Session, amounted to 37,377,2601. The Chancellor of the Exchequer The present Untunded Debt moved for the Amount of the Produce 15,580,000l, including 4,500,00cl. tlie of the Permanent Taxes for the year aniount of the Navy Debt for the year; 202. ble than observed, that he had but he was not able to late this with

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