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Milbourne Port. : List of the Minority.
Sir T. Egerton Hoo. T. Luttrell
Lancaster. C. Wolseley
Bridgewater. Lord risc. Folkestone Laurence Cox
Liverpool. Benjamin Allen
Sir W. Meredith
Richard Pennant J. Smith Dir. T. Townshend Sir Pb. Jen. Clerk
Beaumont Hotham Edmund Burke
Anthony James Keck Som
Yarmouth, J. Elwys John Damer
LEICESTERSHIRE. Jervoise Clerk, Christopher Griffith
J. Peach Hungerford Lymington. Reading. Hon. L. F. Carey Francis Annesley
Warehum. Hop. admiral Keppel
Sir J. Griffin Griffin. R.H.W.G. Hamilton
Grimsby. Hon. J. Moatagu
Hon. J. Luttrell
J. Fleming George Grenville
STAFFORDSHIRL. Lieut. gen. Lambton J. Greaville, jun.
Litchfield. J. Tempest Richard Grenville
G. W. Van Neck
NORFOLK Sir Charles Davers
Sir Edward Astley
Sir Francis Vincent Sir Joba Molesworth
Crisp. Molineux Camelford.
Gatton. J. Amyand
Sir Harbord Harbord James Adam Leskeard. Sir G. Cornwall
Bletchingly. Samuel Salt Thomas Foley, sen. NORTHAMPTONSHIRE.
Sir Robert Clayton Edv. Gibbon*
Frederick Standert St. Michael. Jobn Scudamore
Southwark. Hon. T. Howard HERTFORDSHIRE.
Nathaniel Polbill Callington
Sir G. Robinson
Lord G. Lenox
Sir T. S. Wilson Henry Fletcher Paul Fielde
Sir H. Gough
Shoreham. Raph Gowland
Sir Matthew Ridley
. Eust Grinstead. Lord G. Cavendish Hon. C. Marsham
Lord G. Germaine
Gen. J. Irwin
Lord Edw. Beptinck.
Filmer Hopeywood Oakhampton.
Arundel. Alex. Wedderburn
Sir Cecil Wray
Newark. G.L. Newenbam
George Sutton * Mr. Gibbon to Mr. Holroyd, Feb. 25, 1775.
Chichester. "On Wednesday we had the Middlesex elec
OXFORDSHIRE. Rt. Hon. T. Conolly
WARWICKSHIRE. 1. I was a patriot : sat by the Lord Mavor | Lord Wenman Wilkes] " who spoke well and with temper;
SHROPSHIRE. Sir Cbarles Holte but before the end of the debate fell fast asleep.
Bridgenorth. T. G. Skipwith
Coventry. aun sulj a mute; it is more tremendous than 1 Thomas W bilmore imagined; the great speakers fiill me with SOMERSETSHIRE. Edward Roe Yeo Gespair, the bad ones with terror." Gibbon's | R. H. Coxe
WESTMORELAND. Shiscellaneous Works, vol. 1, p. 490.
Edward Phelips Sir Micb, le Fleming
Knaresborough. tion and delicacy was not to be used in G. Johnstone
Hon. R. B. Walsiug-perfecting the Bill, it would rather pro
voke than effect any good purpose; he
would not, therefore, without certain as-
surances, give his consent to its going to Sir John Rushout
the committee. He contended, that the Droitwich. Lord J. Cavendish
first operation of the Bill should be so cal. Thomas Foley, jun. C. Turner
culated, that the innocent might in no Worcester.
event be confounded with the guilty, and Thomas Bates Rous David Hartley observed, that the power given to the goWilts.
vernment and council of New Hampshire Charles Penruddock Savile Finch
and Massachuset's Bay, to take off the Ambrose Goddard :
CINQUE PORTS. restrictions laid by this Bill by proclamaLuggershall.
tion, appeared to be so limited, that they Lord G. Gordon J. Trevanion
could not issue such proclamation so as to Salisbury.
Winchelsea. William Hussey C. W. Cornwall
secure those who were evidently well in.' Devises. William Nedham
tentioned from the penalties of the Act: James Sutton
he insisted, that in common justice the Calne.
commencement of its operation should be Rt. Hon. Isaac Barré Lord Bulkeley
delayed to such a period, as would give John Dunning
those so inclined time to return to their Heytesbury. Sir H. Williams duty; and concluded, that if this was not General A'Court
Cardigan. to be the case, he should be adverse to its Westbury.
Sir Robert Smyth going one step further. On the contrary, Nathaniel Bayly
Carnarvonshire. if he heard from authority, that none but Wotton Basset. Robert Scot
the unrelenting and intractable would feel
its influence, he should wish the Bill Henry Herbert
Evan Lloyd Vaughan Lord North replied, that it was intended John Cooper
Pembrokeshire. to fill up the blanks in such manner as YORKSHIRE. Hugh Owen
would answer the purposes wished for by Sir G. Savile
NORTH BRITAIN. the hon. gentleman, and that the first Bederley.
Bamffshire. operation of the Bill would not have efSir J. Pennyman Earl of Fife
fect sooner than at the expiration of one G. F. Tuffnell
Elginshire. month at least after its arrival.
A Petition against the Bill from the Sir Charles Saunders Kingherne.
merchants, traders and others, of the city Beilby Thompson J. Johnstone
of London, interested in the American Debates in the Commons on the Bill for commerce, was presented, by the sheriff's restraining the Trade and Commerce of the of London, and read; setting forth, “ That New England Colonies.] Feb. 24. On the commissioners are deeply concerned, the motion to commit the Bill to restrain to observe, by the votes, that a Bill is the Trade and Commerce of the provinces brought in, to restrain the trade and com. of Massachuset's Bay and New Hamp-merce of the provinces of Massachuset's shire, and colonies of Connecticut and Bay and New Hampshire, and colonies of Rhode Island, and Providence Plantation, Connecticut, and Rhode Island, and Proin North America, to Great Britain, Ire- vidence Plantation, in North America, to land, and the British islands in the West | Great Britain, Ireland, and the British Indies; and to prohibit such provinces islands in the West Indies, and to prohibit and colonies from carrying on any fishery such provinces and colonies from carrying on the banks of Newfoundland, or other on any fishery on the banks of Newfoundplaces therein to be mentioned, under land, or other places therein to be mencertain conditions, and for a time to be tioned, under certain restrictions, and for limited,
a time to be limited ; and representing to Şir John Griffin Griffin, after express the House, that the said Bill, should it ing his sincere wishes to see a happy pass into a law, will, in its operation de conclusion put to the American disputes prive thousands of his Majesty's loyal without bloodshed, declared, that upon subjects of their actual subsistence, and reading the Bill, he felt himself alarmed, reduce them to extreme distress, even and was jealous that, if the greatest cau. that of famine, the said provinces not g**
. . (S82 nerally raising corn sufficient for their own titioners beg leave to observe, that the resupport; and by the said Bill they will be straints intended to be laid upon the Newprevented from receiving any supplies foundland fishery of the colonies, menfrom their sister colonies, and precluded tioned in the said Bill, if carried into a from their natural resource, the sea ; and law, will not by any means be injurious to that the petitioners have reason to believe commerce, as the petitioners against the that very great numbers of men are bred Bill conceive, because the fu-aign markets and employed in the fisheries, who, in can be amply supplied, by e inding the hardiness and intrepidity, are not ex- Newfoundland fishery of subj.cts resident ceeded by any in this extensive empire, in England; and that the annual produce and may be impelled, by the pressing calls of the Newfoundland fishery carried on by of hunger and want, to such a conduct as subjects resident in the mother country, may be productive of devastation and exceeds 500,0001. and that the Newfoundbloodshed, wbich may endanger the peace land fishery of the mother country is a and welfare of that part of his Majesty's constant nursery of seamen for the navy, American dominions, or be induced to that great bulwark of the nation, every emigrate to the islands of Miquelon and fifth man employed being, by the 10th of St. Pierre, there to fish for the French, William the 3rd, obliged to be a landman, and give our rivals the means of supply- a consideration of infinite weight, the peing the markets in Europe, and thereby titioners imagine; and this the more esperender it difficult for us to regain that va- cially, as the profits of the trade center luable branch of commerce; and that intirely in this kingdom ; and that the prothere is now due, from the said provinces fits of the Newfoundland fishery, carried and colonies, to the city of London, a on by the colonies mentioned in the Bill, very large sum of money, and that their do not center here, nor is the Newfoundremittances are principally made by means land fishery of the colonies a nursery of of the fisheries, and consequently the ruin seamen for the fleet, because the Ameri. brought on those colonies will ultimately cans are not obliged by law to make use of fall on Great Britain; and that, amongst landmen, nor are the American seamen other grievances of which our fellow sub- | compellable, like the British seamen, to jects in America so generally complain, serve their country in times of war; the is, their being deprived of trial by jury in petitioners are therefore greatly alarmed, particular cases, and the extension of the lest a Petition from so respectable a body jurisdiction of the admiralty courts; which as the lord mayor, aldermen, and commons grievances, the petitioners with much of London, should operate not only to concern find, are not only continued, but their prejudice, but to the general prejuextended by the present Bill; and they dice of the kingdom, on a point of such think it their duty to represent to the importance to the national prosperity; House, that it is their firm opinion, that humbly submit the foregoing facts to the the disquietude which universally prevails consideration of the House, and soliciting, in the minds of their fellow subjects in no less for their own immediate advantage America, will not be removed, unless than for the universal benefit of their lenient measures are pursued, and their country, such encouragement of the Brigrievances redressed; and therefore pray. tish fishery to Newfoundland as the parliaing, that the said Bill may not pass into a I ment shall think proper.” law,"
A Petition of the people called Quakers Mr. Alderman Hayley moved, that the was presented by Mr. Alderman Oliver, petitioners have leave to be heard by them and read, selves, or counsel; which was agreed to. “ Taking notice of the Bill to restrain
the trade and commerce of the province Feb. 28. A Petition of the merchants, of Massachuset's Bay and New Hampshire, traders, and principal inhabitants, of the and colonies of Connecticut and Rhode town and county of Pool, was presented Island, and Providence Plantation, in to the House, and read ; setting forth, North America, to Great Britain, Ireland,
" That the petitioners observe, that a and the British islands in the West Indies; Petition is presented to the House, from and to prohibit such provinces and colome lord mayor, aldermen, and commons, nies from carrying on
nies from carrying on any fishery on the of the city of London, in common council banks of Newfoundland, or other places assembled, against the Bill mentioned in therein to be mentioned, under certain the preceding Petition; and that the pe- conditions, and for a time to be limited ; and that the petitioners are informed, that, ty to make a few remarks on the evidence in the island of Nantucket, on the coast of which has been given, trusting, that should New England, there are about 5,000 in- I make any improper observations, I shall habitants, nine-tenths of whom are of stand excused, by being in a situation in the people called Quakers; and that the which I am entirely unaccustomed. By said island is for the most part barren and the evidence of Stephen Higginson and sandy, not yielding provision for a twen-captain Jenkins, I think it was fully tieth part of its inhabitants; and that the proved, that by the operation of this Bill, inhabitants almost wholly depend on the should it pass into a law, the inhabitants of whale fishery for their subsistence, pur- some of the provinces may probably, by chasing with the produce of the said oc- the clause which is to restrain their trade, cupation, grain and other necessaries from be reduced to famine; and that by the dethe neighbouring colonies; and that, if privation of their fisheries, that calamity the said Bill should pass in a law, these will not only be encreased, but a great people would unavoidably be exposed to number of innocent subjects undergo 8 all the hardships of famine as no provi- punishment which they do not deserve, as sions can be imported from any of the by their occupation the majority of them neighbouring colonies, and their trade, by are the most part of the year at sea, and which they subsist, will be totally prohi- consequently must have been absent from bited; and that the said it abitants, to the disturbances at home. That by the evi best of the petitioners' inflation and be- / dence of captain Jenkins, the inhabitants lief, are intirely innocent respect to the of the island of Nantucket, will in a greater present disturbances in America; where- degree be affected by the barrennessel fore, in consideration of the miseries in their soil, and they are the more to be pending over so large a part of their commiserated, because, had that island brethren, and others their fellow sub- remained within the district of the pro jects, in that island and in the neighbour- vince of New York, as it was originally hood, under the like circumstances, the they would not have been included in thi petitioners intreat the House, that the said Bill, it being but about sixty years sinct Bill may not pass into a law, as thereby a the island of Nantucket was made a par inost grievous punishment would be in of the province of the Massachuset's Bay dicted on the innocent, and a body of a circumstance that doubtless many d men, whose occupation is hazardous, their this honourable committec know : 9 gains uncertain, and their labours neces- which may be added, that as the inhabi sary to themselves and the community, tants are peaceable and industrious, an would be subjected to inevitable ruin and by the principles of the majority and the destruction."
occupation of all, they are innocent sub And the said Petitions were severally jects, it appears extremely hard that the ordered to be referred to the considera- should be included in this severe punish tion of the committee of the whole House ment. When I say principles, I do ng to whom the said Bill is committed. mean to be understood, that the peop!
The order of the day was read for the called Quakers have not the same regar House to go into the said committee. It for civil and religious liberty, as their fel was moved that the Speaker do not leave low subjects, but that their principles lea the chair. The House divided. Noes 24. them to suffer oppression more patient Ayes 97.
than others, and not without a hope thi "The House resolved itself into the said | their superiors, by proper and respectfi Committee; sir Charles Whitworth in the remonstrances, may give them relief; fi chair.
resistance they cannot adopt.-By t Mr. David Barclay was called in. He evidence of both, it appears, how unti appeared as agent for the committee of vourable are their ideas of the governmel North American merchants, and wished, and country of Halifax; how certain with the permission of the committee, to is that these seafaring people will be cot examine some witnesses in support of their strained to emigrate elsewhere for subsi Petition. He then examined Mr. Brook tence, and how probable that some of the Watson, Mr. Stephen Higginson, and Mr. may go to the French.-By the evident Seth Jenkins. After which,
of Brooke Watson, it appears how exter Mr. David Barclay addressed the Com- sive the fisheries were in 1764, and by Hil mittee: I will now, with the indulgence of ginson and Jenkins, how very much the this honourable committee, take the liber-are since encreased.By the evidence
John Lane, the large debt due from the Americans being pressed by parliament's provinces of New England; and that if not chusing to leave them their old privithe fisheries should be stopped, how little is lege, whether that privilege was by law, to be expected from their other means of custom, or mere indulgence, of taxing remittance when compared to the de. themselves internally, they denied only mands on them, from this country.-Byour right of internal taxation. However, Watson, Higginson, and Jenkins, the im- it was soon proved to them, by argument practicability of carrying on these fisheries and practice, that an external tax could to an equal extent and advantage from be made to answer all the purposes, and Great Britain; and how dangerous it will to produce all the mischiefs, of internal be to divert out of its usual channel, a taxation. They then denied the right of certain trade, the advantages of which taxing for supply. Parliainent next procentre in this kingdom.--From all these ceeded violently to deprive them of their combined circumstances, I am led to be charters, and to make them other acts lieve, that chis honourable Committee will relative to their trials; then they desee the impropriety of passing the fishery nied your power of internal legislation. Bill into a law; and I trust will be con. But still in the midst of all their vio. vinced that the merchants and traders of lence and all their provocation to it, they the city of London do not trouble this never hitherto have formally rejected House with petitions, but when the neces- the power of parliament to bind their trade. sity of the case absolutely requires it, and But the British legislature is now to conthat their anxiety to be heard at this bar, vince the Americans, that if but a single before measures are adopted, proceeds from branch of legislative power is left to this the belief, that they have it in their power, country, we can make that single power to give such information as may enable answer all the purposes of a power to tax. the honourable House, consistent with its This Bill, which is to restrain their comwisdom, its justice, and its dignity, to merce until they submit, until they cease adopt measures the most advantageous to to resist our taxing authority, and indeed, the landed and commercial interest of the whatever else is thought fit to be imposed whole British empire.
on them, will convince, he said, the AmeAfter this, the Speaker resumed the ricans, that this power, thus used, may be chair. Sir C. Whitworth reported from made by far the most oppressive, and worse the Committee, that they had heard the than any of those they had hitherto denied. petitioners the merchants, traders, and He was quite satisfied, that the Bill was others, of the city of London, interested in meant for nothing else but to exasperate the American commerce, in support of the colonies into open and direct rebellion. their petition, by their agent: and had Hitherto rebellion was only asserted, and made a progress in the Bill; and asked that ambiguously, of one colony. It would leave to sit again.
from this Bill probably become apparent,
and universal in all; and thus give an opMarch 6. On the motion that the Bill portunity for drawing the sword, and be engrossed,
throwing away the scabbard. He indeed Lord Howe expatiated on the necessity acquitted the ministry of a design of raising of the measure, as the only moderate a rebellion for the mere purpose of havoc means of bringing the disobedient provinces and destruction. But said, that as by their
the empire in all the horrors of a civil war. colonies into a state of the greatest dis, Mr. Charles For said, that this Bill must obedience, disorder, and confusion, withhave been calculated to put an end to all out being at the same time within the that remained of the legislative authority legal description of rebellion, this was a of Great Britain over America. That it state of things full of the greatest difficul. must be intended to shew to the colonies ties, and in which it required the utmost that there was no one branch of supreme nicety to conduct government. But when authority, which parliament might not things were brought to the length of reabuse in such a manner, as to render it bellion, the course of proceeding, however reasonable to deny, and necessary to resist | desperate, was simple and obvious. And it. To prove this he went through the now, as by this Act all means of acquiring history of the several steps, by which the a livelihood, or of receiving provisions authority of parliament was denied, by were cut off, no other alternative was left, having been abused. At first, said he, the but starving or rebellion. (VOL. XVIII.]